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Learning Together

Learning Together

‧ 17m 23s

What's the best way to invest in your team's professional development — train everyone at once, let people self-direct, or something in between?

Petra Wille and Teresa Torres explore why the sweet spot might not be what most organizations default to. They share real examples from their work with product teams and leaders — from book clubs to group coaching — and make a case for small, intentional groups as a powerful (and underused) learning model.

Procurement

Procurement

‧ 15m 14s

Teresa is cranky — and honestly? She has every right to be.

In this episode, Teresa and Petra go on a deeply relatable rant about the absurdity of modern corporate procurement processes. Teresa is simultaneously juggling seven speaking engagement contracts, and six of them have become a part-time job in themselves — think 80-page ethics policies, 800-question security forms, and Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) questions asked 17 different times. Meanwhile, the one company that just put her fee on a credit card? Scheduled, confirmed, and done in two weeks.

Petra chimes in with her own procurement horror story — filling out...

Is Technology Good?

Is Technology Good?

‧ 24m 18s

We built the internet. We championed social media. We're now building AI. But what if, looking back, we made things worse?

In this candid and wide-ranging conversation, Teresa and Petra wrestle with a question that's hard to ask from inside tech: is the industry we've dedicated our careers to actually net positive for the world? From a chance comment by a non-tech family member to jarring observations about human isolation in San Francisco, this episode doesn't shy away from the discomfort.

They explore the role of greed in how technology has evolved, what the "tech bro" narrative is costing us...

AI Engineering

AI Engineering

‧ 22m 5s

What happens when a product leader accidentally becomes an AI engineer? In this episode, Teresa Torres shares how she went from occasional tinkerer to spending 60% of her time doing real engineering work — building AI-powered tools for continuous discovery, forming a licensing partnership with Vistaly, and quietly constructing "Teresa Bot," an AI discovery coach trained on everything she's ever written.

Teresa and Petra dig into what AI engineering actually looks like in practice: context engineering, prompt writing, RAG, observability, evals, and why Teresa thinks product managers who want to do great discovery might secretly be data scientists at heart....

Product Builder Myth

Product Builder Myth

‧ 19m 24s

Is the "product builder" trend the future of product management—or just the latest thing everyone thinks you should be doing?

In this episode, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres push back on the hype. They dig into whether product managers should be vibe coding, what actually determines if it works (spoiler: it's your org setup, not the tools), and why "just because you can doesn't mean you should." They also break down the three distinct layers where AI is changing product work—and why mixing them up causes chaos.

Whether you're a PM wondering if coding is now part of your job,...

Taste

Taste

‧ 12m 53s

Is "taste" the must-have skill of the AI era — or just the latest tech buzzword? In this episode, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres unpack the growing hype around taste as a differentiating human trait in a world where AI is eating through design, delivery, and discovery. Teresa pushes back hard: taste is rarely defined, can't be easily taught, and risks becoming a cover story for "my preference trumps yours." Petra adds nuance, acknowledging the real pattern-recognition that comes from years of product experience — while questioning whether it's actually worth investing in. Together they trace the idea back to...

Command And Control

Command And Control

‧ 17m 40s

When things feel uncertain, many companies default to command-and-control leadership. It feels faster, safer, and more decisive. But is it actually effective?

In this episode, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille unpack the real role of command and control in modern product organizations. They explore why it keeps resurfacing, where it might work (if ever), and why it often breaks down at scale.

Through practical examples—from burning house analogies to real-world product teams—they challenge the idea that strong leadership means centralized decision-making. Instead, they make the case for a more nuanced approach: setting direction, building trust, and enabling teams to contribute...

Predicting The Future

Predicting The Future

‧ 17m 42s

AI headlines are everywhere—and many claim they know exactly what’s coming next.

In this episode, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille push back on that certainty. They explain why people are bad at predicting the future and why betting on a single outcome can be risky.

Instead, they share a more useful approach: scenario planning. Explore multiple possible futures, extract what matters, and use it to make better decisions today.

If you’re navigating AI-driven change, this episode will help you stay grounded without ignoring what’s coming.

Product Work Is Relationship Work

Product Work Is Relationship Work

‧ 18m 4s

As AI makes it easier than ever to generate ideas and build products, some people are asking: Do we still need product managers?

In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres argue that the real work of product management isn’t going away anytime soon. While AI can help build things faster, it can’t replace the relationship work required to align stakeholders, navigate competing priorities, and create shared understanding across teams.

They explore why many product teams become overly transactional, how curiosity unlocks better collaboration, and why investing in relationships actually helps teams move faster in the...

FOMO

FOMO

‧ 15m 54s

In the AI era, new tools seem to appear every week. It’s exciting—but it can also feel overwhelming. How do you keep up without burning out?

In this episode, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres talk about how they deal with FOMO when it comes to new technology—especially in the fast-moving world of AI. They share how they decide which tools are worth exploring, why they don’t try everything that trends on social media, and how focusing on real problems helps them go deeper instead of chasing every shiny new thing.

Teresa explains why she starts with opportunities and friction rather...