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Think you don't have big enough problems for AI to help with? Think again.

In this episode, Petra and Teresa tackle one of the most common blockers people face when starting out with AI: not knowing where to begin. It's not a lack of problems — it's a lack of exposure. Teresa shares the daily habit that took her from feeling behind to using AI every single day, and why starting small (and terrible) is exactly the right approach.

They also dig into the noise problem: why you don't need MCP servers, plugins, or the latest AI app to get...

What makes an event truly unforgettable — and what can product teams learn from it? In this episode, Teresa sits down with Petra Wille to explore how Petra and her co-organizer Arne design experiences (not just events) at Product at Heart and their Product Leadership gatherings. From a candlelit speakers' dinner in a rosemary-covered greenhouse to a disco ball that appeared for exactly 20 seconds, Petra shares how intentional design, sensory details, and a little bit of goofy magic help attendees shed their corporate armor and open up to real inspiration and connection. Teresa draws the parallels back to product...

Organizational change is exhausting — so stop trying to force it. Petra and Teresa unpack why trying to fix the people and processes around you is almost always wasted energy, and what actually works instead. If you've ever wanted to champion a new way of working inside a resistant organization, this one's for you.

What's the best way to invest in your team's professional development — train everyone at once, let people self-direct, or something in between?

Petra Wille and Teresa Torres explore why the sweet spot might not be what most organizations default to. They share real examples from their work with product teams and leaders — from book clubs to group coaching — and make a case for small, intentional groups as a powerful (and underused) learning model.

Teresa is cranky — and honestly? She has every right to be.

In this episode, Teresa and Petra go on a deeply relatable rant about the absurdity of modern corporate procurement processes. Teresa is simultaneously juggling seven speaking engagement contracts, and six of them have become a part-time job in themselves — think 80-page ethics policies, 800-question security forms, and Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) questions asked 17 different times. Meanwhile, the one company that just put her fee on a credit card? Scheduled, confirmed, and done in two weeks.

Petra chimes in with her own procurement horror story — filling out...

We built the internet. We championed social media. We're now building AI. But what if, looking back, we made things worse?

In this candid and wide-ranging conversation, Teresa and Petra wrestle with a question that's hard to ask from inside tech: is the industry we've dedicated our careers to actually net positive for the world? From a chance comment by a non-tech family member to jarring observations about human isolation in San Francisco, this episode doesn't shy away from the discomfort.

They explore the role of greed in how technology has evolved, what the "tech bro" narrative is costing us...

What happens when a product leader accidentally becomes an AI engineer? In this episode, Teresa Torres shares how she went from occasional tinkerer to spending 60% of her time doing real engineering work — building AI-powered tools for continuous discovery, forming a licensing partnership with Vistaly, and quietly constructing "Teresa Bot," an AI discovery coach trained on everything she's ever written.

Teresa and Petra dig into what AI engineering actually looks like in practice: context engineering, prompt writing, RAG, observability, evals, and why Teresa thinks product managers who want to do great discovery might secretly be data scientists at heart....

Is the "product builder" trend the future of product management—or just the latest thing everyone thinks you should be doing?

In this episode, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres push back on the hype. They dig into whether product managers should be vibe coding, what actually determines if it works (spoiler: it's your org setup, not the tools), and why "just because you can doesn't mean you should." They also break down the three distinct layers where AI is changing product work—and why mixing them up causes chaos.

Whether you're a PM wondering if coding is now part of your job,...

Is "taste" the must-have skill of the AI era — or just the latest tech buzzword? In this episode, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres unpack the growing hype around taste as a differentiating human trait in a world where AI is eating through design, delivery, and discovery. Teresa pushes back hard: taste is rarely defined, can't be easily taught, and risks becoming a cover story for "my preference trumps yours." Petra adds nuance, acknowledging the real pattern-recognition that comes from years of product experience — while questioning whether it's actually worth investing in. Together they trace the idea back to...

When things feel uncertain, many companies default to command-and-control leadership. It feels faster, safer, and more decisive. But is it actually effective?

In this episode, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille unpack the real role of command and control in modern product organizations. They explore why it keeps resurfacing, where it might work (if ever), and why it often breaks down at scale.

Through practical examples—from burning house analogies to real-world product teams—they challenge the idea that strong leadership means centralized decision-making. Instead, they make the case for a more nuanced approach: setting direction, building trust, and enabling teams to contribute...