All Things Product with Teresa and Petra

You've got behavioral analytics, support tickets, sales call notes, and a feedback inbox that never empties. With all that data coming in, do product teams actually still need to go out and talk to users?

In this episode, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dig into why not all product evidence is created equal — and why the type of data you collect matters just as much as the volume. Teresa introduces her "ladder of evidence" framework and shares what she's learning from real interview transcripts through her work at Vistaly: that many teams are confusing product demos, stakeholder meetings, and...

Every product manager wants to move into leadership — but nobody wants to hire a leader without leadership experience. So how do you break the cycle?

In this episode, Teresa and Petra unpack the practical, often-overlooked ways individual contributors can build real leadership skills right now, without waiting for a title change. Petra shares a surprisingly simple starting point: understand what your organization actually expects from its leaders, then begin deliberately practicing those behaviors in your current role.

The conversation goes deep on two of the most foundational leadership skills — the art of saying no with evidence and clarity,...

Think you don't have big enough problems for AI to help with? Think again.

In this episode, Petra and Teresa tackle one of the most common blockers people face when starting out with AI: not knowing where to begin. It's not a lack of problems — it's a lack of exposure. Teresa shares the daily habit that took her from feeling behind to using AI every single day, and why starting small (and terrible) is exactly the right approach.

They also dig into the noise problem: why you don't need MCP servers, plugins, or the latest AI app to get...

What makes an event truly unforgettable — and what can product teams learn from it? In this episode, Teresa sits down with Petra Wille to explore how Petra and her co-organizer Arne design experiences (not just events) at Product at Heart and their Product Leadership gatherings. From a candlelit speakers' dinner in a rosemary-covered greenhouse to a disco ball that appeared for exactly 20 seconds, Petra shares how intentional design, sensory details, and a little bit of goofy magic help attendees shed their corporate armor and open up to real inspiration and connection. Teresa draws the parallels back to product...